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even worst in asia? hello smartass YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
@jeremyraybrown : Wall Street moguls are reluctant to move manufacturing back to the US from China. They’re not about to surrender the large profit margins for America’s middle class sake. I’ve positioned myself to sustain an economic catastrophe, but what about the “other guy”? I hope the current administration isn’t concocting a crisis for an opportunity.
@kotash2 Moody’s is a joke. Only an imbecile would listen to them.
@barryinspace The fundamental cause of the crisis is government distortion of capitalism. They now have a disturbing history of bailouts, horribly low interest rates, Fannie and Freddy moral hazards, bad legislation, money printing, etc. … Now you expect the government to solve the problem …. LMAO!!!! The best thing the government could do is roll back some of the depression era legislation they undid and then get out of the way and reduce taxes and spending.
@joe80dman Apparently we can have a recovery, however, it is a stimulus based recovery. We really need a major pick-up in manufacturing and saving. Still, once the stimulus runs out because of a stronger inflation threat, then all bets are off. I just hope I’ve positioned myself well before that date.
The fundamental cause of the crisis is too much debt – resulting from the issue of bank credit as our money supply. Government issued debt-free money is the solution – it will keep the money supply stable while the banks deleverage and withdraw credit from circulation.
– What I see is MAria is SEXY … she is calling you to fuck her …
But House prices can not fall , If that happens ,, creditors who invested in USA real estate , will be broke. Chinese Japanese Saudis(they are dumb) they have OIL .
Oh and congratulations Chicago for coming last in the Olympic bid.
I never though I would see the day America literally implodes from the inside.
It is just one defeat after the other
I more inclined to trust Ahmadinejad drunk after a bottle of jack daniels with a thousand nuclear missiles pointing at Israel than anything that Wall Street/City of London and the politicians say.
Both sides of the Atlantic
It’s comical watching the same people that caused this mess try to paint a rosey picture of how things are improving.
I thought gooks were good at math.
This is heart of the matter. Moody’s is a gov cartelized company. They rated mort backed securities as AAA and there was no competing ratings. Moodies is sanctioned by the gov.
The ratings agencies gave the bankers the confidence to buy mort backed securities b/c the bankers thought they were safe. It was entirely the GOVs fault not the bankers
Grow home sales? WTF? Let the home prices fall! Why can’t Wall Street learn that?
From SE ASIA: Madam what Planet are you on? Come to Asia and see for yourself the growing prosperity as the USA declines!
In SE asia? 4%? 400%? You are absolutely full of shit dude.
I would trust the mafia over Wall Street regarding money mgmt. Asia is a rising star as are the BRICs. National unemployment is going to hit 10% either this year or early next year.
Read the press from the USA from the early 30′s they wrote everything will be OK just like today! The USA is very sadly mismanaged as most of Asia is well managed!
The jobless here in SE Asia is 4% and the growth rate here in this part of the world is 400% higher and up than the USA! The USA like GM is simply mismanaged! Obama is very bad for the USA time will prove us correct!
Lonski works for Moody’s. Do not believe anything from anyone working for said company. They rated absolute junk as triple AAA for years. Moody’s was a main cause to this Depression we are in.
Now that they know that 10-15% of the people who loose their jobs will loose their homes within 6 months-1 year it is becoming obvious that the housing market is still in free-fall. Alt-A and Option Arm mortgages are just starting to come due and with a 50-60% default rate it will be bad for years. The talking heads are grabbing tidbits of irrelevant info and data and putting a overweight spin on it. Nothing is bottoming and whe is does hit bottom it will stay there for many years.
You are a wise person. The stock markets have been disconnected from the true economy for years. The stock market is to the economy as a Vegas Casino is to the Nevada economy. The markets are a manipulated casino whereby only the insiders actually win. The average joe investor is like a regular vegas gambler. Never knows when to quit and plays until he’s broke. You can win in the markets but the odds are against you in the long term.
This is correct. CSMonitor, May 14: “Foreclosures hit new highs in April and more are expected in months ahead.” Lonski strikes me as a naive cheerleader–a not entirely rare character on CNBC.
How could there possibly be a recovery when more jobs are lost on a daily basis? Someone is lying through their corporate/Wall Street teeth at us. There will be NO recovery. You can’t have a recovery with a service based economy coupled with heavy trade losses.
What John Lonski, Chief Economist of Moody’s Investor Services miss is the wave of foreclosures that will hit in August 2009. The ALT-A problem, made of jumbo loans, 2nd homes, & investor purchases will hit big. This tsunami of foreclosures will drop values further, and cause banks to realize losses like never before, causing some of them to fully default. Credit loses will only increase, they have NOT peaked. Property values have not bottomed either, expect further erosion. You heard it here.
Why is almost everybody judging the “recovery” by the stock exchange index? It is driven by speculation and totally detachee from the real economy… Why do you think it is that volatile?